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Browns are at the forefront of a ‘Jordan vs. LeBron’ debate for saddest, ‘worst go of it’ NFL fanbase
CLEVELAND, OH - AUGUST 18, 2007: The Great Lakes Classic trophy is awarded to the winning team between the Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions following their annual preseason game was on display prior to the game on August 18, 2007 at Cleveland Browns Stadium in Cleveland, Ohio. Detroit won 23-20. Great Lakes Classic Trophy07-1206979 (Photo by Diamond Images/Getty Images) | Diamond Images/Getty Images
The naming of things can sometimes be funny. A small or cheap item can have a regal name attached that does not fit the size or stature of the actual product. For years, the “Great Lakes Classic” preseason matchup between the Cleveland Browns and Detroit Lions fit the “big name, small game” typology.
“The Battle for the Barge,” as fans would call the GLC, was regularly played between two teams who were only “Classic” in that they have both been around a long time, both were founded in Ohio (the Lions were originally the Portsmouth Spartans), and both have been classically bad since the Browns returned in 1999.
Detroit has seen a strong turnaround since 2022, with four straight winning records and two playoff appearances, while Cleveland has made the playoffs twice since 2020 but has seen four losing seasons in that timeframe as well.
According to Joel Walkowski, author of the book “Honolulu Blues: How The Detroit Lions Saved My Life,” fans of the Browns and Lions are 1a and 1b in having “the worst go of it of any franchise,” similar to the NBA’s GOAT debate between Michael Jordan and LeBron James:
“I exist on this planet to make the argument that the Lions fans have the WORST go of it of any franchise…” “I gotta give a hat tip to the Cleveland Browns. That is the Jordan-LeBron debate of this…” Do you agree with @theBigWalkowski ? https://t.co/HIHqpDYst0 pic.twitter.com/v3Hb0DLCbS
— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) July 28, 2026
Obviously, Walkowski has a bias, as we all do.
A look at the historical numbers between each team:
Record: CLE – 567-560-14, DET – 615-717-34
Winning %: CLE – 50.3%, DET – 46%
Championships: CLE – 8, DET – 4
Maybe Walkowski is on to something, big picture and in the long-term. For the more recent history, the Browns have been far more downtrodden and have had an organization that has made mind-numbing decision after mind-numbing decision.
Then again, Detroit and Cleveland are also the only two teams since the strike-shortened season of 1982 to have winless seasons, so both fan bases have gone through a lot.
Overall, which fan base do you think has it worse? Do you agree with Walkowski because of the whole history of the franchises or do you think it is the Browns given the history since The Return in 1999?
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